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THE MODERN FAKE SAINT VINCENT 1985 MICHAEL JACKSON STAMP ISSUES

Forgeries of the 1985 Michael Jackson Inverted Frame Error Stamps

UPDATE 2016

I have now discovered that the British Virgin Island unissued Michael Jackson Pairs have also been forged. This guide will show you what to look for as the same source has produced them all. Here are comparison images of them.
1985 Unissued BVI Michael Jackson Fake with Original 55c Stamp Comparison
Even though the dealer enhanced his image (basically with brightness and contrast), you can see the extreme difference in color of the fonts and backgrounds.
The dealer states "these stamps are later printings of the 1985 Issue". Why would there be any reprint of an unissued stamp???
1985 Unissued BVI Michael Jackson Fake with Original $1.50 Stamp Comparison So why reprint if they are as common as I have stated on the BVI page? The reason is because all originals were retained by Rushstamps and all archival materials were retained by Kasamir Bileski when the printing company was liquidated. Therefore they have never been affordable to the forger(s) at a minimal cost soooo....just run off some more reproductions like the Saint Vincent forgeries below.

End of Update

I have recently discovered that modern fake stamps of this issue are being sold onto the market. I can tell you that real dangerous fakes or some call forgeries are being flooded on the market as I write this page in July of 2015.

My research into the printer has enabled me to discover modern fake stamps have been created in 2014!! They are being spread across the world through online auction sites like ebay and Delcampe. Everything about them is fake except for one dangerous fact, they have the correct perf size. The gum type is different in it being white in color and very shiny. This gum type was not used until much later years, long after Format went bankrupt thus proving they were not produced by the Format International Security Printers. Obvious differences will be shown below. So far I have discovered complete sets of fake inverts of the Saint Vincent 1985 Michael Jackson issue. I have also discovered forgeries of the Imperforate souvenir sheets as well. All are being offered online right now as I write this on July 11, 2015.

An attempt to move 10,000 sets of the Michael Jackson and 10,000 sets of the Elvis Presley issues was made in Ocotober. They were normal issues!

I can also tell you that I have discovered that many more "modern" issues for Tuvalu and other countries are being forged. Mainly varieties and "errors" of the issues which bring in higher profits although normal issues are also being faked in some cases. All are being produced by the same source which is unknown at present. All are dangerous forgeries because the perf sizes are correct. Images shown on auction sites cannot be trusted because they cannot be defined by counting perforations and unless you have a comparable image of the originals they cannot be recognized by the images given by sellers. This includes Audubon Birds issues including inverted frames, Dogs inverts, Flowers inverts, Michael Jackson inverts, and many more.

ANY INFORMATION TO TRACE THE SOURCE OF THESE FORGERIES WILL BE POSTED TO THE PROPER RESOURCES

At present sellers on ebay, Delcampe, Bonanza, and Amazon are offering them. I am sure other sources are now selling them also. A list of these sellers is being compiled and at some point the source may be revealed. At this time unless the sellers stop selling them (which is doubtful) it is up to you as a buyer to refuse to buy them without proper identification. In other words, make the seller send you 1200dpi images of the front and back of the stamps and then compare them with my images. I have posted more pages on the issues I have discovered to be forged and have included an index page listing them with links.

New information is welcome and you may contact me through this website anytime.

Recently I noticed sales of the Saint Vincent 1985 Michael Jackson issue being sold as inverted frame errors on ebay from a dealer in the UK at a cost of around $25.00. I had already discovered the seller is selling other fake invert sets and so I purchased a set and was amazed to find it is from a completely different printing than the originals and the secondary reprints! The colors, screens, fonts and gum completely differ.
With my suspicions up I checked other lots on ebay looking for odd Michael Jackson lots and came across lots of the souvenir sheet imperforate up for auction at a price around $10.00 for the set. I purchased one and when I received them found them all to be from the same source! The same gum type, paper and screens!

The first clue that tells you the inverted stamp sets are fakes is....

THE IDIOTS PUT THE $4 SOUVENIR SHEET VALUE ON THE HIGH VALUE!! ANYBODY WHO CANNOT NOTICE THAT AND IS TRYING TO SELL THESE FAKES SHOULD NOT BE DEALT WITH IN ANY REGARDS!!

Here is a snapshot of a "dealer" trying to tell us they are from the original printing on eBay. This shows either complete ignorance or complete deceit.
Since this page I created was posted this "dealer" changed his tune showing the latter to be true. This person still persists in offering these fakes on eBay and other locations. Calls them "later printings" now. How about calling them what they really are? Fake reproductions produced 30 years later by a crooked stamp dealer bent on ripping you off!

BEWARE!!

Stampbank of London Advertisement on eBay

Here is a snapshot of this sellers latest deceit on eBay.
Stampbank of London Ripoff Lies on eBay

Now you tell me, How can a "later printing" come from the "original print run" and be "not a re-print"????
That does not compute!
But then it appears because nobody in this world has the guts to stand up against this blatent flood of forgeries flooding the stamp market, "dealers" like this will continue to rip you off freely and joyously. Obviously this seller is watching my site because he copies the general statements I have placed under the sets that are being forged and puts them in his sale lots. Wonder if I could get him for copyright. The owners name is Ettan Bazil. The site sells every forgery that has been created by....well isn't it obvious yet? There are other dealers selling these also but nothing compares to the scale this one business is doing. Interesting that the company opened on eBay May 30 ,2014 which is around the time the forgeries started appearing on the market.....
Then incorporated under the name Stampbank Ltd. on April 2, 2015 and wishes to claim it is a "dormant" company. Wonder what type of tax evasion this one is trying. Looks like the House of Questa style of business. Has numerous companies and all are "dormant". Yet is constantly making money on eBay and such......interesting.

Again BEWARE! Located on eBay and Amazon and runs personal international websites. Feel sorry for all the victims in other countries. Here is a snapshot of his ad on his own site.
Stampbank of London False Advertising on Personal Website

Mr. Bazil...you are really stuck on trying to claim they are from the original printing. Why don't you take yourself back to my introductory page on Modern Fake Stamps and read the article by the British Philatelic Exporter a couple more times. And I quote:

"THE INVERT IS COMPLETELY FABRICATED AS THE ORIGINAL PRINTING OF THE DENOMINATION AND THE COUNTRY NAME WERE DONE FROM THE SAME PLATE!"

I must add here for those who do not understand what this means. The country names and denominations on the original printing were printed together on the "Leaders of the World" FRAME plates. Therefore it is impossible to reverse the denomination and not reverse the country name as well!
Here is an expanded image taken from one of the genuine color proof sets imaged in the unauthorized reprints page.

The genuine Michael Jackson Frame, Country name and Denomination Color Proof
Saint Vincent 1985 Michael Jackson Genuine Original Frame, Country Name, Denomination Color Proof

So.....give up already and quit lying!

Moving on!

THE FAKE MICHAEL JACKSON STAMPS

Here are the differences so you can define these forgeries.

Here are gum comparisons.

Gum Comparison of a Fake Stamp with Original
This gum appears to still be PVA but without the greenish tint. It has been noted that other British issues like some of the Machin issues have this type of gum. The problem is it was not used until the late 90's. The gum is very shiny though which conflicts with the description of the gum known as PVAI (Layflat) used on the Machins. Yet the stamps lay perfectly flat on a surface whereas originals have a light bending from aging.
This is evidence showing even a later creation and since these did not appear on the market until 2014 and no such invert errors have ever been on the market nor recorded, it proves these to be modern forgeries of the stamps.
1985 Michael Jackson Fake with Original Gum Comparison

Gum Comparison of the Original, Reprint and Fake Michael Jackson Stamps
Again there is an obvious difference in color and texture.
1985 Michael Jackson Fake, Reprint and Original Gum Comparison

Screen and Color Comparison of the Fake Stamp with Original Stamp
Note the extreme difference in color on the fake stamp. The inferior screen pattern.
1985 Michael Jackson Fake with Original Screen and Color Comparison

Screen and Color Comparison of the Fake Stamp with Secondary Reprint Stamp
The quality of the fake stamp surpasses the quality of the secondary reprint making it an even more dangerous stamp.
Again note the extreme difference in color on the fake stamp. The letter "o" actually can be discerned better than on the reprint. Still an inferior screen pattern although better than the reprint!
1985 Michael Jackson Fake with Reprint Screen and Color Comparison

Comparison of the Fake 60c Stamp with the Original Stamp
A stunning difference yes?
Please note the extreme difference in colors on the fake stamp. You can see that the country name and value are a completely different color being red instead of lavender. Michael's coat is almost yellow on the forgery!
The fake stamps are kind of like a photocopy of the originals but use a lower quality screen and have a shiny surface over the face.
1985 Michael Jackson Fake invert with Original 60c Stamp Comparison

Comparison of the Fake $1 Stamp with the Original Stamp
Again an extreme difference in colors on the fake stamp. You can see that the background colors on both stamps is extremely different.
The fake stamps country name and value are a redder color whereas the originals is an orange-red.
1985 Michael Jackson Fake invert with Original $1 Stamp Comparison

Comparison of the Fake $2 Stamp with the Original Stamp
Here again note the extreme difference in color of the backgrounds on the fake stamps. You can see that the country name and value are a completely different green color. The bars above and below the country name on the fake stamp have red color added making them appear almost black!
1985 Michael Jackson Fake invert with Original $2 Stamp Comparison

Comparison of the Fake $4 Stamp with the Original Stamp
Here again note the extreme difference in color of the backgrounds on the fake stamps. You can see that the country name and value are a completely different brown color. Of course the obvious thing is that the value is $4 instead of $5!
1985 Michael Jackson Fake invert with Original $5 Stamp Comparison

I have created a table with links at the bottom of this page to full size images at 1200dpi for you to use to compare. It is possible and probable that the forgery ring has created fakes of the normal issues as well as imperforates. Therefore please use my pages to authenticate them before putting money down on them and getting ripped off!

THE FAKE MICHAEL JACKSON SOUVENIR SHEETS

All of the Michael Jackson imperforate souvenir sheet forgeries are smaller in width than the originals. All are completely different!

Gum Comparison of the Original and Fake 1985 Michael Jackson Souvenir Sheets
Again there is an obvious difference in color and texture. Note the width differences. The forged imperforate cut smaller.
1985 Michael Jackson Souvenir Sheet Fake, Reprint and Original Gum Comparison

Screen and Color Comparison of the Fake Souvenir Sheet Image with Original Souvenir Sheet Image
Here I ironically use the $4 souvenir sheets to show 1200dpi images of the differences.

Note the difference in color on the fake souvenir sheet. The inferior screen pattern again is prominent.
1985 Michael Jackson Fake with Original Souvenir Sheet Image Screen and Color Comparison

Screen and Color Comparison of the Fake Souvenir Sheet $4 Stamp with Original Souvenir Sheet $4 Stamp
You can see that everything is different on the $4 stamps. The screens, the colors, the size of the frames. Even the Leaders of the World logo's are different. A good try by the forgers but you will never fool us with this junk printer you have! Your images will never match what Format produced because you cannot do it without a superior lithographic press which you could not afford to run making fakes like these.
1985 Michael Jackson Fake with Original Souvenir Sheet $4 Stamp Screen and Color Comparison

Now let's compare the fake with one of the secondary reprints showing that indeed the fakes are very dangerous.

Screen and Color Comparison of a Secondary Reprint Souvenir Sheet Image with Fake Souvenir Sheet Image
On my page about the secondary reprints I have described how the images used for the stamps are larger than the originals. You can see Michael's fist is larger in this image compared to the forgery. The proportions and perforations on the fake souvenir sheets are closer to the originals thus making them harder to define than the reprints especially with images given by sellers.
1985 Michael Jackson Fake with Reprint Souvenir Sheet Image Screen and Color Comparison

Screen and Color Comparison of the Fake Souvenir Sheet $4 Stamp with Secondary Reprint Souvenir Sheet $4 Stamp
Once again you can see that everything is different on the $4 stamps. The screens, the colors, the size of the frames. The Leaders of the World logo's are different. The thin black frameline on the fakes gives them away since both the originals and the reprints have thick black framelines.
1985 Michael Jackson Fake with Reprint Souvenir Sheet $4 Stamp Screen and Color Comparison

You can see that there is a lot of differences between the three printings.

One buyer of these fakes purchased a large lot from one of the biggest and most reputable stamp sellers on ebay. He bought what he thought was the complete print run of one "newly discovered" error in full panes in packets of 200 panes which were unopened.
I am sorry to say that there are several ways proving these were never produced by the Format Printers.
Firstly the packaging is wrong. Here is the image he sent me.
Packets of Fake Stamp Panes

The plastic wrapping is a flexible plastic used today. Format packaged all stamp panes in very brittle hard plastic that tears easily when opened. The separation paper is brown. Format always used pink/red paper to separate and protect the panes and souvenir sheets.

The perforations on the panes are wrong

Here is an image of the Saint Vincent 1985 Michael Jackson 60c stamp pane from the original printing.
1985 Michael Jackson Original print 60c Stamp Pane

Now here is an image of a Michael Jackson 60c fake stamp pane.
1985 Michael Jackson Forgery print 60c Stamp Pane

Now look at the image of the original pane and the image of the fake pane shown above. Can you see the difference?
The perforations run through the selvage on the original pane on the top and the right side. The perforations run through the selvage depending on the position of the pane on the press sheet. There are no perforations on the right selvage of the fake pane and it is cut short!

Because of the fact that a major portion of leaders in the stamp community wish to turn a blind eye on these forgeries. Because of dealers and buyers who are afraid to "step up to the plate" because of fear of being ridiculed by self proclaimed "experts" or because they don't want to get involved, the forgers will continue to forge more and more sets. They have already effected other issues that have nothing to do with Leaders of the World issues such as Nauru 1982 Scouts, Barbuda 1983 Manned Flight and others showing us the wide range of stamps they are capable of forging and possibly have already forged. Soon you will be the victim when you buy that fake high valued Orchid stamp or that high priced definitive set you have dreamed of getting or what you thought to be a genuine error or variety which in the end only turns out to be fabricated by these forgers and nobody wants it when you go to sell it or your children go to sell it.

You have a choice.

Continue to ignore this problem that the majority of stamp leaders and editors seem to be trying to do just like they have with unauthorized reprints and "illegal" stamps in the past. Or spread the word and complain to your contacts and leaders that these problems need to be exposed and described in magazines, newspapers and catalogs before every stamp issue made in modern times from the 1970's onward falls victim to being a suspected forgery and in turn you or your friends or associates will fall victim to it when trying to buy or sell them. These forgers are professionals and have been here for decades unseen. They will continue to harm us unless people like you stand up and take notice!

This problem effects everyone because now instead of the value being based on a set quantity of the issued stamp, we now have double, triple or even more in quantity placed on the market. It will therefore depreciate the stated value of them in the catalogs simply because they will not research them and "assume" there are tons available when in reality for many sets the originals are and have become difficult to find.

I am simply the one who discovered them because of my research on the printer.
Indeed several issues that I have researched and obtained the original varieties of are effected. Mainly these fake imperforates. I am a professional tradesman and have never depended on stamps to live on. There are many that do depend on stamp sales though and it is for them also that I have created this section of the website.

You can now define the fake Saint Vincent 1985 Michael Jackson stamps and souvenir sheets easily and can now possibly avoid being ripped off! Sorry to say this, a lot of you already have been fooled and more of you will be until the right people get serious about it!

Here are links to images of each stamp with an original next to a fake. All are scanned at 1200dpi (except the souvenir sheets which are at 600dpi due to size) so the files are large. All were scanned at the same time with the same settings and nothing is enhanced. Please be patient with downloading them because each file is around 8 to 14 megs.

FAKE 1985 MICHAEL JACKSON STAMPS WITH ORIGINALS
Scott 894 Michael Jackson Stamp Scott 895 Michael Jackson Stamp
Scott 896 Michael Jackson Stamp Scott 897 Michael Jackson Stamp
Scott 898 Michael Jackson Souvenir Sheet Scott 899 Michael Jackson Souvenir Sheet
Scott 900 Michael Jackson Souvenir Sheet Scott 901 Michael Jackson Souvenir Sheet

Your friend and fellow collector and researcher,
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